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Jan. 6 hearing takeaways: Subpoena for Trump, warnings for democracy

Jan. 6 hearing takeaways: Subpoena for Trump, warnings for democracy
During this committee's first hearing in July of last year, our witnesses were four police officers who helped repel the riots of January six, we asked them what they hope to see the committee accomplished. Over the course of our investigation, Officer Gunnel wanted to know why the rioters were made to believe that the election process was rigged officer for known. Asked us to look into the actions and activities that resulted in the day's events. Officer Hodges was concerned about whether anyone in power had *** role officer done, put it simply get to the bottom of what happened. We've worked for more than *** year to get those answers. We've conducted more than 1000 interviews and depositions. We received and reviewed hundreds of thousands of pages of documents, thanks to the tireless work of our members and investigators. We've left we have left no doubt None that Donald Trump led an effort to upend American democracy that directly resulted in the violence of January six. He tried to take away the voice of the American people in choosing their president and replace the will of the voters with his will to remain in power. He is the one person at the center of the story of what happened on January six. So we want to hear from him. The committee needs to do everything in our power to tell the most complete story possible and provide recommendations to help ensure nothing like January six ever happens again. We need to be fair and thorough and gain *** full context for the evidence we've obtained. But the need for this committee to hear from donald trump's goes beyond our fact finding this is *** question about accountability to the american people. He must be accountable. He is required to answer for his actions. He's required to answer to those police officers who put their lives and bodies on the line to defend our democracy. He's required to answer to those millions of americans who votes he wanted to throw out as part of his scheme to remain in power And whatever is underway to ensure this accountability under law, this committee will demand *** full accounting to every American person of the events of January six. So it is our obligation to seek Donald Trump's testimony. There's precedent in american history for Congress to compel the testimony of *** president president. There's also precedent for presidents to provide testimony and documentary evidence to congressional investigators. We also recognize that *** subpoena to *** former president is *** serious and extraordinary action. That's why we want to take this step in full view of the american people, especially because the subject matter at issue is so important to the american people and the stakes are so high for our future and our democracy. And so I recognize the vice chair MS Cheney of Wyoming to offer *** motion mr chairman pursuant to today's notice I send to the desk *** committee resolution and ask for its immediate consideration. The clerk will report the resolution. Committee resolution one resolved that the chairman be and is hereby directed to subpoena Donald J trump for documents and testimony in connection with the january 6th attack on the United States capitol, pursuant to section five C four of House resolution 503 and clause to M. Of Rule 11 of the rules of the House of Representatives. The young woman from Wyoming is recognized on her resolution. Thank you. Mr Chairman Mr Chairman. Our committee now has sufficient information to answer many of the critical questions posed by Congress. At the outset, we have sufficient information to consider criminal referrals for multiple individuals and to recommend *** range of legislative proposals to guard against another january 6th, But *** key task remains. We must seek the testimony under oath of January six. Central player. More than 30 witnesses in our investigation have invoked their fifth amendment right against self incrimination And several of those did so specifically in response to questions about their dealings with Donald Trump directly. Here are *** few examples. This is Roger Stone with oath keepers at the Willard Hotel on the morning of January six and here is Mr Stone testifying before our committee. Did you speak to President Trump on his private cell phone on either January five or January once again on advice of counsel. I will assert my fifth amendment right to respectfully decline to answer your question. This is General Michael Flynn walking with oath keepers on December 12, 2020. And here is General Flynn's testimony before our committee. Did you? General Flynn talk to President trump At any point on January 6, 2021. What's this? Here is John Eastman fraudulently instructing tens of thousands of angry protesters that the vice president could change the election outcome on January six. Later on the same day, Dr Eastman acknowledged in writing that Donald trump knew what he was attempting was illegal. Here is john Eastman testifying before our committee. President Trump authorized you to discuss publicly or January 4, 2021 conversation with him. So is it your position that you can discuss in the media? Direct conversations you had with the President of the United States, but you will not discuss those same conversations with this committee. Here is Jeff Clark who conspired with Donald trump to corrupt the Department of Justice. President trump, wanted to appoint Jeff Clark as acting Attorney General and as you can see in this call log we obtained from the National Archives. He did so. And here is Mr Clark testifying before our committee. Mr Clark. When did you first talk directly with president Trump? 5th Mr Clark? You discuss with president Trump allegations of fraud in the 2020 election fifth. Other witnesses have also gone to enormous lengths to avoid testifying about their dealings with Donald trump steve. Bannon has been tried and convicted by *** jury of his peers for contempt of Congress. He is scheduled to be sentenced for this crime later this month. Criminal proceedings regarding Peter Navarro continue and Mark Meadows Donald trump's former Chief of Staff has refused to testify based upon executive privilege. The committee's litigation with him continues. Mr Chairman At some point, the Department of Justice may well unearth the facts that these and other witnesses are currently concealing. But our duty today is to our country and our Children and our constitution. We are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion and every american is entitled to those answers so we can act now to protect our republic. So this afternoon, I am offering this resolution That the committee direct the chairman to issue *** subpoena for relevant documents and testimony under oath from Donald John Trump in connection with the January six attack on the United States Capitol. Thank you. Mr Chairman, I yield back, gentle lady yields back. If there's no further debate, the question is on agreeing to the resolution. Those in favor will say, aye, those exposes no in the opinion of the chair. The eyes have it mr Chairman, I request *** recorded vote. Recorded vote is requested. The clerk will call the roll Miss Cheney, I miss Cheney I MS Lofgren. Lofgren, I mr Schiff I mr Schiff I Mr Aguilar Mr Aguilar I mrs Murphy mrs Murphy I mr Raskin, I mr Raskin, I mrs Loria I mrs Loria I mr Kinzinger Kinzinger I mr Kinzinger I mr Chairman I Mr Chairman I the clerk will report the vote. Mr. Chairman on this vote. There are nine eyes and zero knows the resolution is agreed to without objection. *** motion to reconsider is laid on the table. The chair request that those in the hearing room remain seated until the capitol police have escorted members from the room. Without objection, the committee stands adjoined.
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Jan. 6 hearing takeaways: Subpoena for Trump, warnings for democracy
Video above: House Jan. 6 committee votes to subpoena TrumpThe House Jan. 6 committee took the extraordinary action of subpoenaing former President Donald Trump on Thursday as it issued a stark warning in its final public hearing before the midterm election: The future of the nation's democracy is at stake.The panel's October hearing, just weeks ahead of the midterm election, focused on Trump's state of mind on Jan. 6, 2021, as he egged on his supporters with false claims of election fraud, pushed to accompany them to the Capitol while lawmakers were counting the votes, and then did nothing for hours as the mob violently breached the building.The committee is set to shut down at the beginning of next year, and was making its final public arguments ahead of a report expected in December."We are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion," said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, the panel's vice chairwoman and one of two Republicans on the nine-member committee. "And every American is entitled to those answers. So we can act now to protect our republic." A subpoena for Trump -- but not PenceThe subpoena for Trump is a major escalation in the probe. After signaling for months that they may leave the former president alone, the unanimous 9-0 vote "for relevant documents and testimony, under oath" was definitive.The committee had long debated whether to seek testimony from or subpoena Trump or former Vice President Mike Pence. Neither has spoken directly to the committee. While Trump has been hostile to the probe both in court and in public, Pence's lawyers had engaged with the panel for several months with no clear resolution.Video below: Jan. 6 panel focuses on Trump 'staggering betrayal'Still, several of Pence's closest aides have complied with the investigation, with several of them providing great detail about his movements and state of mind as he resisted Trump's pleas to somehow object to the certification of electoral votes that day and try to overturn their defeat.In contrast, the committee showed several clips of Trump allies refusing to answer questions before the panel.Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Democrat, said the committee was "able to nail down every salient detail in pretty much every element of the offense" except for certain details about what Trump was doing and saying as the insurrection unfolded. 'Consider whether we can survive'The lesson of the committee's investigation is that institutions only hold when people of good faith protect them without regard to political cost, Cheney said during the hearing."Why would Americans assume that our Constitution and our institutions in our Republic are invulnerable to another attack? Why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time?" Cheney asked.Video below: Midterms loom over latest Jan 6 HearingThe warnings come as Trump is still refusing to acknowledge that he lost his reelection to Joe Biden and is considering another run in 2024 — and as many Republicans who deny Biden's win are running in the midterm elections at all levels of government. Many states have replaced election officials who resisted Trump's pressure campaign."Any future president inclined to attempt what Donald Trump did in 2020 has now learned not to install people who could stand in the way," said Cheney, who lost her own Republican primary this August. "Consider whether we can survive for another 246 years." Pelosi and Schumer, in hidingNew video aired by the panel showed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reacting emotionally to the news that her colleagues were donning gas masks in the House chamber as rioters neared. She quickly went to work trying to reopen the Capitol.Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer were seen in unidentified secure locations and talking to security officials. The footage included a conversation between Pelosi and Pence, who was also in a secure location, discussing their return to the session to finish certifying Biden's victory.The footage was filmed by Pelosi's daughter, Alexandra Pelosi, according to two people familiar with the video who requested anonymity to discuss it.The two leaders are seen working to bring the National Guard to the Capitol amid an hourslong delay. At one point, Schumer said he was going to "call up the secretary of DOD," referring to the Defense Department."We have some senators who are still in their hideaways," Schumer said on the phone. "They need massive personnel now."Secret Service revelations The committee has obtained more than 1.5 million pages of documents from the Secret Service in recent weeks. They revealed some of that information in the hearing, including an email from within the agency on Dec. 11, 2020, the day the Supreme Court rejected one of Trump's attempts to undermine the vote."Just fyi. POTUS is p—-d — breaking news —- Supreme Court denied his law suit. He is livid now," one anonymous Secret Service email said.Other emails showed that the agency had ample warnings of violence in the weeks and days ahead of the insurrection.An alert received by the agency on Dec. 24 said multiple online users were targeting members of Congress and "instructing others to march into the chambers," said California Rep. Adam Schiff, a Democratic member of the panel. Cabinet officials The committee showed prerecorded interviews with Cabinet members, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, Attorney General William Barr and Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, who said they believed that once the legal avenues had been exhausted, that should have been the end of Trump's effort to remain in power.Pompeo, who was interviewed by the panel since its last hearing in July, said in his videotaped testimony that he believed that once the Electoral College certified the vote, that was the end of the process for contesting the election. "We should all comply with the law at all times, to the best of our ability — every one of us," Pompeo said.Chao, who is married to Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, said she decided to resign after the insurrection because it was "impossible for me to continue given my personal values and my philosophy."At the same time, Trump continued to push the false claims of fraud to his millions of supporters."President Trump knew the truth. He heard what all his experts and senior staff was telling him," said Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, the committee's other Republican. "His intent was plain: ignore the rule of law and stay in power." Criminal referrals Cheney addressed one of the committee's remaining questions at the beginning of the meeting, saying that the panel "may ultimately decide to make a series of criminal referrals to the Department of Justice."Members of the panel have long suggested they may suggest charges for Trump or others based on their own evidence. While such a referral would not force any action, it would place political pressure on Attorney General Merrick Garland as the department has pursued its own investigations surrounding Jan. 6. And the committee has yet to share any transcripts from its more than 1,000 interviews.Still, "we recognize that our role is not to make decisions regarding prosecution," Cheney said.___Associated Press writers Michael Balsamo, Farnoush Amiri, Kevin Freking and Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.

Video above: House Jan. 6 committee votes to subpoena Trump

The House Jan. 6 committee took the extraordinary action of subpoenaing former President Donald Trump on Thursday as it issued a stark warning in its final public hearing before the midterm election: The future of the nation's democracy is at stake.

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The panel's October hearing, just weeks ahead of the midterm election, focused on Trump's state of mind on Jan. 6, 2021, as he egged on his supporters with false claims of election fraud, pushed to accompany them to the Capitol while lawmakers were counting the votes, and then did nothing for hours as the mob violently breached the building.

The committee is set to shut down at the beginning of next year, and was making its final public arguments ahead of a report expected in December.

"We are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion," said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, the panel's vice chairwoman and one of two Republicans on the nine-member committee. "And every American is entitled to those answers. So we can act now to protect our republic."

A subpoena for Trump -- but not Pence

The subpoena for Trump is a major escalation in the probe. After signaling for months that they may leave the former president alone, the unanimous 9-0 vote "for relevant documents and testimony, under oath" was definitive.

The committee had long debated whether to seek testimony from or subpoena Trump or former Vice President Mike Pence. Neither has spoken directly to the committee. While Trump has been hostile to the probe both in court and in public, Pence's lawyers had engaged with the panel for several months with no clear resolution.

Video below: Jan. 6 panel focuses on Trump 'staggering betrayal'

Still, several of Pence's closest aides have complied with the investigation, with several of them providing great detail about his movements and state of mind as he resisted Trump's pleas to somehow object to the certification of electoral votes that day and try to overturn their defeat.

In contrast, the committee showed several clips of Trump allies refusing to answer questions before the panel.

Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Democrat, said the committee was "able to nail down every salient detail in pretty much every element of the offense" except for certain details about what Trump was doing and saying as the insurrection unfolded.

'Consider whether we can survive'

The lesson of the committee's investigation is that institutions only hold when people of good faith protect them without regard to political cost, Cheney said during the hearing.

"Why would Americans assume that our Constitution and our institutions in our Republic are invulnerable to another attack? Why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time?" Cheney asked.

Video below: Midterms loom over latest Jan 6 Hearing

The warnings come as Trump is still refusing to acknowledge that he lost his reelection to Joe Biden and is considering another run in 2024 — and as many Republicans who deny Biden's win are running in the midterm elections at all levels of government. Many states have replaced election officials who resisted Trump's pressure campaign.

"Any future president inclined to attempt what Donald Trump did in 2020 has now learned not to install people who could stand in the way," said Cheney, who lost her own Republican primary this August. "Consider whether we can survive for another 246 years."

Pelosi and Schumer, in hiding

New video aired by the panel showed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reacting emotionally to the news that her colleagues were donning gas masks in the House chamber as rioters neared. She quickly went to work trying to reopen the Capitol.

Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer were seen in unidentified secure locations and talking to security officials. The footage included a conversation between Pelosi and Pence, who was also in a secure location, discussing their return to the session to finish certifying Biden's victory.

The footage was filmed by Pelosi's daughter, Alexandra Pelosi, according to two people familiar with the video who requested anonymity to discuss it.

The two leaders are seen working to bring the National Guard to the Capitol amid an hourslong delay. At one point, Schumer said he was going to "call up the [expletive] secretary of DOD," referring to the Defense Department.

"We have some senators who are still in their hideaways," Schumer said on the phone. "They need massive personnel now."

Secret Service revelations

The committee has obtained more than 1.5 million pages of documents from the Secret Service in recent weeks. They revealed some of that information in the hearing, including an email from within the agency on Dec. 11, 2020, the day the Supreme Court rejected one of Trump's attempts to undermine the vote.

"Just fyi. POTUS is p—-d — breaking news —- Supreme Court denied his law suit. He is livid now," one anonymous Secret Service email said.

Other emails showed that the agency had ample warnings of violence in the weeks and days ahead of the insurrection.

An alert received by the agency on Dec. 24 said multiple online users were targeting members of Congress and "instructing others to march into the chambers," said California Rep. Adam Schiff, a Democratic member of the panel.

Cabinet officials

The committee showed prerecorded interviews with Cabinet members, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, Attorney General William Barr and Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, who said they believed that once the legal avenues had been exhausted, that should have been the end of Trump's effort to remain in power.

Pompeo, who was interviewed by the panel since its last hearing in July, said in his videotaped testimony that he believed that once the Electoral College certified the vote, that was the end of the process for contesting the election. "We should all comply with the law at all times, to the best of our ability — every one of us," Pompeo said.

Chao, who is married to Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, said she decided to resign after the insurrection because it was "impossible for me to continue given my personal values and my philosophy."

At the same time, Trump continued to push the false claims of fraud to his millions of supporters.

"President Trump knew the truth. He heard what all his experts and senior staff was telling him," said Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, the committee's other Republican. "His intent was plain: ignore the rule of law and stay in power."

Criminal referrals

Cheney addressed one of the committee's remaining questions at the beginning of the meeting, saying that the panel "may ultimately decide to make a series of criminal referrals to the Department of Justice."

Members of the panel have long suggested they may suggest charges for Trump or others based on their own evidence. While such a referral would not force any action, it would place political pressure on Attorney General Merrick Garland as the department has pursued its own investigations surrounding Jan. 6. And the committee has yet to share any transcripts from its more than 1,000 interviews.

Still, "we recognize that our role is not to make decisions regarding prosecution," Cheney said.

___

Associated Press writers Michael Balsamo, Farnoush Amiri, Kevin Freking and Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.